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Bar Bulletin

August, 2003

MSBA News

The ABC's of Interviewing Asylum Keepers
By Anna G. Aita and Raouf M. Abdullah

“First,” said the lawyer to the visitor sitting in her office, “please understand that seeking asylum in the United States will require both your commitment to see the process through to the end and your cooperation with the lawyer you retain. Also, neither I nor anyone else can guarantee your application for asylum will be granted by the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Service (“BCIS”). Your lawyer’s role is to help you in your efforts by sharing and applying her legal knowledge, but you must put in the effort needed to pursue your asylum claim.”

The visitor was a young lady from Guatemala named Xiomara. She spoke no English and relied on her sister, Defilia, to translate. Xiomara had been in the United States illegally for three years, working low-paying jobs. The lawyer observed that Xiomara was hesitant to talk with her. In contrast, Defilia, who had been in the United States for the same three years, had a work permit and was residing in the United States legally. Defillia had filed for asylum only a few days after arriving.

After twenty minutes of putting her timid prospective client at ease, the lawyer, who had interviewed many Xiomaras over the years, shifted her approach to elicit the seminal facts. “I understand that you came here interested in seeking asylum,” she told Xiomara. “Let’s talk about how the process works. To get asylum, we must show the government that you have a ‘well-founded fear’ of persecution on account of your religion, race, ethnicity, political opinion or social group if you are sent back to Guatemala. There is also a general requirement that you file your application within one year of your arrival into the country or show good cause why you did not do so.

For lawyers representing aliens who wish to seek asylum in the United States, this can be a typical dialogue during a critical first interview. On one hand, asylum seekers are no different than most clients interested in procuring legal representation. However, some nuances should be considered as lawyers interact with a potential asylum seeker. Often, asylum seekers have fled their country of origin with much physical and/or emotional scarring. It may have been only days since the potential applicant was detained and tortured by the authorities in his or her country. Even when the event(s) occurred later in time, the horror may be ever-present. In any case, getting potential applicants to talk about why they wish to seek asylum may be the most difficult part of the process.

There are many techniques lawyers might use to get recalcitrant asylum seekers to share their story. One is to start with a neutral topic and gradually advance to the difficult issues.  Another is to ask the potential asylum seeker to narrate the percipient events.  After the potential asylum seeker has become comfortable with the lawyer in sharing his or her experiences, the lawyer can probe the areas that were glossed over.  A third approach is to explain the law and allow the potential asylum seeker to initiate a discussion on how his/her application might fair.

After the potential asylum seeker decides to confide in an attorney, the next hurdle the attorney may encounter is gathering enough supportive corroborative evidence. The good news is that evidentiary rules in asylum proceedings are less stringent than in other practice areas. Because the initial determination is an administrative law proceeding before the BCIS, evidence in asylum cases is not subject to the stringent hearsay objections and strict authentication requirements one would find in trial practice. For instance, there is no need to formally lay a foundation to show a given document is authentic in BCIS proceedings. News articles and reports from international agencies such as the U.N. that corroborate a potential asylum seeker’s experiences are also admissible. In preparing the asylum seeker’s application, the attorney should refer to community and Internet resources that confirm the client’s experiences. He or she should also look to see how the State Department classifies the asylum seeker‘s nation and whether there are special immigration programs for nationals from the prospective applicant’s country. These considerations are important because they can determine how receptive BCIS will be to the asylum seeker’s case.

Finally, the lawyer should prepare applicants for any interactions with the BCIS. Remember that whether the applicant has a “well-founded” fear of persecution has been held to be a subjective standard. Accordingly, the focus will be what the applicant reasonably believed might happen. Conducting mock interviews and hearings are essential because they orient the asylum seekers with how to best convey their experiences to substantiate their “well-founded fear” of persecution.

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